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I'm curious to hear from people that have gone back to the Hall since finding Robert's site. Especially those that were gone for a while. A recent conversation in the comments section with Burt made me realize that I'm bound to be that weird guy that just shows up for the Sunday talk and WT study lol. I'm fine with that, but the more I've thought about it the more I've realized that maybe asking for some advice might not be such a bad idea. Does anyone else show up only on Sundays? Was there ever any pressure to do more? How did you handle it? One of my biggest pet peeves is fake people, and that includes acting like that myself. If people there want to assume I hold the exact same beliefs that they hold, that doesn't bother me. That's on them. But the longer I'm there, the greater the chances are that people will start to question why I'm not going all in. Has this happened to anyone?
A quick background for people that don't know me: left the hall as a kid almost 30 years ago, never stopped questioning how the Witnesses could be so right on the basics but so wrong on prophecy, kept searching for answers and eventually ended up here, took Robert's advice and started going back to the meetings.
The thing is, I refuse to spread the 1914 lie, so I will not be participating in field service. I feel very strongly about this, so the witnessing I do will be either online or in person in a non field service type situation. Also, at this time I don't plan on doing the mid week book study. I'm still soaking up information here and don't need to confuse myself. Maybe at some point I could see doing it, but not now.
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If one is going to meeting..one must take up the complete suit of armor.the helmet .the breastplate ,the sword.the feet.why ,because there are dark forces in heavenly places..don't be afraid to use your sword the spirit of God word.why because this helps to reveal at person heart condition..are they weed or wheat..
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I'm still going to the meetings on regular basis.
Sometimes I skip the midweek, but I try to get there as much as possible. My service is rather limited since my wife is not in the truth and I want to be balanced towards her as well. Some meetings can be more tricky than others, but in general I get stimulated positively. Probably also because I'm currently in a good congregation with real love with a lot of people.
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It's nice to find someone in a similar situation. I just go to the Sunday meetings and have a Bible study with a young elder in the week. I don't quite know where I fit in yet as I also will struggle with the ministry. I sometimes think it best to just stick to learning what the Witnesses teach and then coming to this website after I'm baptised to compare ideas but having read Robert's book I can't now unlearn what he's taught me so find myself in no man's land. I'm trying to be cautious with my conclusions at the moment and not be too full of myself when discussing matters with the elder, but I agree things can get confusing when you're learning two narratives simultaneously. It's a wonderful thing that robert has done helping round up the lost sheep. I'd almost given up when no one would even consider my doubts.
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W Stone - Welcome to the site, and thanks for responding. You're right about the suit of armor. You never know where the next blow might come from! I just pray that Jehovah guides me and doesn't let me slip up talking to someone. That's one of my biggest fears. I like talking to the people there, but at some point the conversations are probably going to get a bit deeper.
Barry - I'm in a similar situation with my girlfriend. I have to balance my time with her as well, and try to teach her at the same time. It's going slow, but I can't force it. I'm taking some advice I got from Annie about leading by example, and I find her asking questions, so that's good. It's great to hear that you're in a congregation that understands your situation. When I was younger it was gotta make it to all three meetings every week or people are going to look at you weird for missing one lol. Fridgeman - I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from and can relate. I know I answered your question about getting baptized, so when I saw that you responded I was worried my positions in this post might confuse you. It's a little different to come across this information while still going vs being gone a long time and going back. Either way, it seems like the effects are the same. That feeling of no man's land, for now at least. But it has a purpose and it's good to keep that in mind. One last thing. I'm going to assume your parents had the good sense not to actually name you Fridgeman, but I see that you're using an actual picture of yourself. A lot of people here do that, as well as using their real name. If you're in any way afraid of what the consequences might be if someone recognized you, you might want to use a different picture. It's probably not likely since you're not using a real name, but it's a guaranteed lecture and then some if you get caught.
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I'd been gone 20 years and almost quit again. I never bothered with the meetings much this time round as I wanted to be sure it was right before I upset my wife by going. 1914 was always a sticking point until robert explained it all properly and now I'm happy to play a minor role in the congregation. Having trouble with the wife and Christmas etc though. Thanks for the pic tip.
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Alex your suit of armor is not only for our protection .we will need to use our sword of the spirit at some point in the near future...why to remove the evil influence that now resides there..image if we had control of the world's biggest publishing company.. Jehovah's day of wrecking is near
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W Stone Alex your suit of armor is not only for our protection .we will need to use our sword of the spirit at some point in the near future...why to remove the evil influence that now resides there..image if we had control of the world's biggest publishing company.. Jehovah's day of wrecking is near
I plan on using that too That's why I started going back. There are going to be a lot of confused people there and hopefully I can be of some use.
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In that day the weak one will be like a might man.a strong warrior..for Jehovah...be courageous...
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I found this site years ago
and talked to robert when he did not use his name just WATCHMAN back in 2000 i think. I have never left the kingdom hall Although i do not agree with some things that are said and taught.
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Hi, I have gone back to the KH. Mind you I hadn't left for a long period of time, it was only a couple of meetings that I forced myself in a months time. I was only baptized in 2015 and am recently new to TTATT so it certainly cannot be as difficult as those who were raised or have been in the "truth" all of their lives. Some meetings I had a really hard time staying, when certain things were being talked about. I would get physically anxious and nauseated. My husband said I was sighing a lot and breathing heavy. I am finding then it a little easier now because of Mr. Kings site and other spiritually uplifting sites. Constant prayer for help and being able to express myself and know that other brothers and sisters are in the same boat really helps.
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1914for100Alex I've been struggling with this same issue since I came across Robert's site almost one year ago. When I found it, it had been almost 20 years since I stopped going to meetings in my early 20's. Since then I have gone to a couple Sunday meetings and the memorial. At one point I thought I was going to go regularly but I, like you, CAN NOT stand being fake. It is just not in my DNA. So, I struggle with what to do on that because I don't feel like I could genuinely get close to anyone. I think they could easily see through my facade (I wear my feelings on my sleeve) and I know I could not hold back desiring to disclose some of this information to them. I fear for the witnesses because they are like a lost sheep. So, my desire to tell them bubbles forth like a volcano that I struggle to hold back. I just couldn't see befriending someone and NOT telling them. However, if I do that they'd likely quickly label me as an apostate or someone to be on guard against. I know it's not ALL about making friends...it's more about doing Jehovah's will. But Jehovah's will requires more than just going to meetings, right? Like W Stone said it would require me putting on "the complete suit of armor" which means going out in service, participating (or at least aspiring to participate in) meetings, etc... But in order to do those things I would need to fall in line with all of the beliefs and I honestly don't know how to do that. Another factor for me is that I'm a long way from home. I was raised in California but now I am on the east coast. If I was still back home I could easily walk into one of my old KH's and see my old friends there and they'd just welcome me back. We'd have a genuine (not fake) connection because it was already existent before I left the organization. In that instance, although I'd genuinely long to tell them, at least I wouldn't feel fake. I just don't know. I still want to go and I think I will go periodically but I can't see going regularly to ALL meetings. I pray to Jehovah that He understands my dilemma with this and doesn't hold it against me. I also ask that if there is any way possible, He helps me find a way to still preach while in this current situation. Hope you find your way...
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1914for100Alex I've been struggling with this same issue since I came across Robert's site almost one year ago. When I found it, it had been almost 20 years since I stopped going to meetings in my early 20's...
Hi simpletruth. I think you summed it up better than I did! That's exactly how I feel. The KH I used to go to doesn't even exist anymore. I have no idea where everyone ended up, but no doubt they're scattered about the area. I mentioned where I used to go to a few of the brothers at the Hall I'm currently going to, but they didn't really know anyone from there. One mentioned the name of a CO that he thought came from there, but it wasn't familiar to me. It's a tough situation to be in, that's for sure. I don't want to not make friends, but if I do, the truth is going to come out. I'm just going to keep praying that things work out ok
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Peaceful Waters Hi, I have gone back to the KH. Mind you I hadn't left for a long period of time, it was only a couple of meetings that I forced myself in a months time...
You're absolutely right about it being nice to come here and find others in the same boat. I can't imagine being alone in this and not have someone to talk to. It's still awkward sitting there at the meetings, but at least we have each other here. The love and support is very much needed, and I thank Robert for allowing us to carry on in the comments section sometimes (most of the time ) as opposed to the forum. I think he realizes how important communication is between all of us. We need to build each other up for what's about to come.
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914for100Alex I think he realizes how important communication is between all of us. We need to build each other up for what's about to come. Absolutely! A lot to be thankful to Robert for, and to everyone here who shares their struggles and experiences. It has really helped me spiritually to have somewhere to go that is impartial, loving, and supportive. Jehovah always finds a way to take care of us